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	<description>Anthropogenic Global Warming, history&#039;s biggest scam</description>
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		<title>By: An open letter to our politicians! &#171; TWAWKI</title>
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		<dc:creator>An open letter to our politicians! &#171; TWAWKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Climate Debate Heats Up In Australian Politics: New Skeptic Party Created &#124; CLIMATEGATE</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/an-open-letter-to-australian-members-of-parliament/comment-page-1#comment-2963</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate Debate Heats Up In Australian Politics: New Skeptic Party Created &#124; CLIMATEGATE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] friends in Australia. We recently published a fine Open Letter to Aussie politicians by attorney, Val Majkus and articles highlighting the superb analysis of the Climategate emails, by Australian physicist, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] friends in Australia. We recently published a fine Open Letter to Aussie politicians by attorney, Val Majkus and articles highlighting the superb analysis of the Climategate emails, by Australian physicist, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Tuck</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/an-open-letter-to-australian-members-of-parliament/comment-page-1#comment-1767</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Tuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Val
It is a long piece but very good. I will be interested in any responses you get eventually
Barb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Val<br />
It is a long piece but very good. I will be interested in any responses you get eventually<br />
Barb</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/an-open-letter-to-australian-members-of-parliament/comment-page-1#comment-1713</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 06:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read it. It is so easy to follow the shenanigans of Mann and his co-conspiritors step by step in this paper. It is long, but can be downloaded to be read at leisure. Well worth the time. Even warmists should reconsider their position after reading it.
You can download it at : 
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/climategate_analysis.pdf .

Also an interesting experiment, which if true makes a mockery of all those warmist scientists. 
http://www.minnesotansforglobalwarming.com/m4gw/
I&#039;m scientifically challenged so perhaps someone out there can verify it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read it. It is so easy to follow the shenanigans of Mann and his co-conspiritors step by step in this paper. It is long, but can be downloaded to be read at leisure. Well worth the time. Even warmists should reconsider their position after reading it.<br />
You can download it at :<br />
<a href="http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/climategate_analysis.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/climategate_analysis.pdf</a> .</p>
<p>Also an interesting experiment, which if true makes a mockery of all those warmist scientists.<br />
<a href="http://www.minnesotansforglobalwarming.com/m4gw/" rel="nofollow">http://www.minnesotansforglobalwarming.com/m4gw/</a><br />
I&#8217;m scientifically challenged so perhaps someone out there can verify it?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The argument that the globe as a whole is getting warmer even though some local areas are getting colder is being used to explain the climate today. Why can&#039;t it be used to explain the climate hundreds of years ago?

I don&#039;t think that just because one glacier was able to melt more in our time than it did in previous times means that all of them melted in the same way. Just like I don&#039;t automatically believe that every last feature on earth was affected exactly the same way in the past (such as the statement where all glaciers were melted more then than they are now). Such generalizations make any argument in this debate lack the details needed to make a point argumentative. We&#039;re talking about the planet, which is constantly changing in more ways than we know, not a set of ice cubes in an atmospherically controlled lab where conditions are still less than perfectly replicated over and over. The planet has never been the same for any period of time, ever. The surface of the planet will always be affected differently by even the same exact forces to any extent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The argument that the globe as a whole is getting warmer even though some local areas are getting colder is being used to explain the climate today. Why can&#8217;t it be used to explain the climate hundreds of years ago?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that just because one glacier was able to melt more in our time than it did in previous times means that all of them melted in the same way. Just like I don&#8217;t automatically believe that every last feature on earth was affected exactly the same way in the past (such as the statement where all glaciers were melted more then than they are now). Such generalizations make any argument in this debate lack the details needed to make a point argumentative. We&#8217;re talking about the planet, which is constantly changing in more ways than we know, not a set of ice cubes in an atmospherically controlled lab where conditions are still less than perfectly replicated over and over. The planet has never been the same for any period of time, ever. The surface of the planet will always be affected differently by even the same exact forces to any extent.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm Rhett</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/an-open-letter-to-australian-members-of-parliament/comment-page-1#comment-1594</link>
		<dc:creator>Norm Rhett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Medieval Warming is consistently shown by sceptics as four centuries of temperatures well above the end of today&#039;s hockey stick. See http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/29/the-medieval-warm-period-a-global-phenonmena-unprecedented-warming-or-unprecedented-data-manipulation/
wherein &quot;Glaciers were smaller than today&quot; and a graph as described above. Let me know if you find one of your climate experts who makes the case that the whole world was warmer except the Austro-Italian Alps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Medieval Warming is consistently shown by sceptics as four centuries of temperatures well above the end of today&#8217;s hockey stick. See <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/29/the-medieval-warm-period-a-global-phenonmena-unprecedented-warming-or-unprecedented-data-manipulation/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/29/the-medieval-warm-period-a-global-phenonmena-unprecedented-warming-or-unprecedented-data-manipulation/</a><br />
wherein &#8220;Glaciers were smaller than today&#8221; and a graph as described above. Let me know if you find one of your climate experts who makes the case that the whole world was warmer except the Austro-Italian Alps.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norm, as you have pointed out the glacier over the ICE man has known to been &#039;been melting from 1880&#039;. The melting took time. The fact that it finally melted enough to find the Ice man has little to do with the current climate. Such a discussion is common and meaningless cherry picking of data by AWG supporters, it proves nothing, is a neither scientific nor valid argument. You should look for real proof not speculation.

Your impression that current temperatures are the warmest in 5000 years is a myth. The myth is supported by frauds such as Michael Mann and published in shoddy sites like Real Climate. I have looked at that site. It is full of misinformation, shoddy revisionist work and science fiction. The myth was created by revisionist rewriting of the temperature records by our so called scientific community. The debunked hockey stick graph was part of that myth. Michael Mann still claims that his hockey stick chart is good science. But, one does not need a PHD to understand just how weak that claim is.

Look at the temperature record at real climate and see how cold the 1930&#039;s appear compared to now. If you are fooled by that presentation, you would never know that 1934-1939 was as warm as today. And that the warmest year in recent history was in the late 1930&#039;s. Until recently a more correct temperature presentation was commonly presented which properly showed the historical temperatures. There are other charts on RealClimate which tell a different story. Older charts which clearly show that the 1930&#039;s were equally warm with the last 10 years. These non-revised charts are also found within many scientific reports and on web sites. 

The revised charts now produced from the altered data by both national and international data bases are self debunking to anyone who has been alive more than a few decades and who has a minimal level of critical thinking skills. You just have to get over the fact that the data has been altered for political reasons. 
 
The fact that climate gate and published papers explain how this fraud was done (yes peer reviewed) is comforting to those of us who have long recognized the fraud.

Do not be made a fool of by revisionists. Open your mind to the possibility of your being misled. Check the data. Cross check with WUWT and other sites and see what is really up. If you still want to play the fool go for it. Just do not expect to impress us with already debunked myths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norm, as you have pointed out the glacier over the ICE man has known to been &#8216;been melting from 1880&#8242;. The melting took time. The fact that it finally melted enough to find the Ice man has little to do with the current climate. Such a discussion is common and meaningless cherry picking of data by AWG supporters, it proves nothing, is a neither scientific nor valid argument. You should look for real proof not speculation.</p>
<p>Your impression that current temperatures are the warmest in 5000 years is a myth. The myth is supported by frauds such as Michael Mann and published in shoddy sites like Real Climate. I have looked at that site. It is full of misinformation, shoddy revisionist work and science fiction. The myth was created by revisionist rewriting of the temperature records by our so called scientific community. The debunked hockey stick graph was part of that myth. Michael Mann still claims that his hockey stick chart is good science. But, one does not need a PHD to understand just how weak that claim is.</p>
<p>Look at the temperature record at real climate and see how cold the 1930&#8242;s appear compared to now. If you are fooled by that presentation, you would never know that 1934-1939 was as warm as today. And that the warmest year in recent history was in the late 1930&#8242;s. Until recently a more correct temperature presentation was commonly presented which properly showed the historical temperatures. There are other charts on RealClimate which tell a different story. Older charts which clearly show that the 1930&#8242;s were equally warm with the last 10 years. These non-revised charts are also found within many scientific reports and on web sites. </p>
<p>The revised charts now produced from the altered data by both national and international data bases are self debunking to anyone who has been alive more than a few decades and who has a minimal level of critical thinking skills. You just have to get over the fact that the data has been altered for political reasons. </p>
<p>The fact that climate gate and published papers explain how this fraud was done (yes peer reviewed) is comforting to those of us who have long recognized the fraud.</p>
<p>Do not be made a fool of by revisionists. Open your mind to the possibility of your being misled. Check the data. Cross check with WUWT and other sites and see what is really up. If you still want to play the fool go for it. Just do not expect to impress us with already debunked myths.</p>
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		<title>By: Climate Change &#8212; so what? &#124; CLIMATEGATE</title>
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		<dc:creator>Climate Change &#8212; so what? &#124; CLIMATEGATE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reader Ronald Kitching made a comment that includes a link to an easy-to-read presentation that as he says is, &#8220;an easily [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/an-open-letter-to-australian-members-of-parliament/comment-page-1#comment-1554</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[...]an explanation of how the Medieval Warming, with temperatures alleged to have been higher than today’s, failed to melt a glacier containing a 5000 year old human body that was found recently.&quot;
Weather isn&#039;t a simple world blanket, right? Conditions for local weather and climates would be different then than they are now. It is not likely that the same glacier would always melt at exactly the same rate at the exact same global average temperature. If climate and weather were really that predictable, everyone would know for sure by now whether or not we&#039;re to blame for global climate change and the local weather man wouldn&#039;t ruin my plans to go to the park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[...]an explanation of how the Medieval Warming, with temperatures alleged to have been higher than today’s, failed to melt a glacier containing a 5000 year old human body that was found recently.&#8221;<br />
Weather isn&#8217;t a simple world blanket, right? Conditions for local weather and climates would be different then than they are now. It is not likely that the same glacier would always melt at exactly the same rate at the exact same global average temperature. If climate and weather were really that predictable, everyone would know for sure by now whether or not we&#8217;re to blame for global climate change and the local weather man wouldn&#8217;t ruin my plans to go to the park.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/an-open-letter-to-australian-members-of-parliament/comment-page-1#comment-1552</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well mate, here&#039;s an explanation for you and your 5000 year old Ice Man: I guess not all the glaciers in Europe  melted during the Medieval warming period. 
Now why don&#039;t you and the Ice Man go back to your AGW alter and continue praying for a some REAL evidence (no, ice men not included). I believe the high priest Al Gore will be delivering a sermon later, on boosting profits on the back of harmless gasses.
Allow me to fill you in on a little secret. It was the AGW scientist crowds that said we have proof of AGW. Unfortunately they are yet to prove it as it appears their proof and indeed their whole scientific methodology is highly questionable. We, the non-believers don&#039;t have anything to prove because we are not the ones predicting catastrophic climate change!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well mate, here&#8217;s an explanation for you and your 5000 year old Ice Man: I guess not all the glaciers in Europe  melted during the Medieval warming period.<br />
Now why don&#8217;t you and the Ice Man go back to your AGW alter and continue praying for a some REAL evidence (no, ice men not included). I believe the high priest Al Gore will be delivering a sermon later, on boosting profits on the back of harmless gasses.<br />
Allow me to fill you in on a little secret. It was the AGW scientist crowds that said we have proof of AGW. Unfortunately they are yet to prove it as it appears their proof and indeed their whole scientific methodology is highly questionable. We, the non-believers don&#8217;t have anything to prove because we are not the ones predicting catastrophic climate change!</p>
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