Comments on: Australiagate: Now NASA caught in trick over Aussie climate data http://www.climategate.com/australiagate-now-nasa-caught-in-trick-over-aussie-climate-data Anthropogenic Global Warming, history's biggest scam Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:21:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: The Climate Change Debate Thread - Page 54 http://www.climategate.com/australiagate-now-nasa-caught-in-trick-over-aussie-climate-data/comment-page-1#comment-5970 The Climate Change Debate Thread - Page 54 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:02:19 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?p=3821#comment-5970 [...] Special | SpaceRef - Your Space Reference http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-81507392.html Australiagate: Now NASA caught in trick over Aussie climate data | CLIMATEGATE __________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong [...] [...] Special | SpaceRef – Your Space Reference http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea…-81507392.html Australiagate: Now NASA caught in trick over Aussie climate data | CLIMATEGATE __________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong [...]

]]> By: Harpo http://www.climategate.com/australiagate-now-nasa-caught-in-trick-over-aussie-climate-data/comment-page-1#comment-5030 Harpo Sat, 20 Feb 2010 04:03:08 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?p=3821#comment-5030 You wrote "My (limited) understanding is there is a discrepancy between modern surface temperature readings and what is indicated by recent tree ring growth" then you wrote "Tree ring data is useful, because it gives you a record going back to times before good surface temperature readings were taken." How can the tree ring data be useful in determining temperatures in the past when the tree ring data doesn't agree with the temperatrure in the present? Tree Rings, Tarrot Cards, Astrology..... its all the same You wrote

“My (limited) understanding is there is a discrepancy between modern surface temperature readings and what is indicated by recent tree ring growth”

then you wrote

“Tree ring data is useful, because it gives you a record going back to times before good surface temperature readings were taken.”

How can the tree ring data be useful in determining temperatures in the past when the tree ring data doesn’t agree with the temperatrure in the present?

Tree Rings, Tarrot Cards, Astrology….. its all the same

]]> By: Is Global Warming a myth? - Page 57 http://www.climategate.com/australiagate-now-nasa-caught-in-trick-over-aussie-climate-data/comment-page-1#comment-4829 Is Global Warming a myth? - Page 57 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:14:33 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?p=3821#comment-4829 [...] do I believe NASA or a youtube video? Yeah, that's a hard one but I think I will go with NASA. Australiagate: Now NASA caught in trick over Aussie climate data | CLIMATEGATE In this article we look at the findings of two independent climate researchers who analyse [...] [...] do I believe NASA or a youtube video? Yeah, that's a hard one but I think I will go with NASA. Australiagate: Now NASA caught in trick over Aussie climate data | CLIMATEGATE In this article we look at the findings of two independent climate researchers who analyse [...]

]]> By: Tom Roe http://www.climategate.com/australiagate-now-nasa-caught-in-trick-over-aussie-climate-data/comment-page-1#comment-4204 Tom Roe Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:31:34 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?p=3821#comment-4204 Denis. Dr. John Christy University Alabama-Huntsville has published two detailed studies of different sections of the surface temperature record which NASA/GISS uses in the US. In both cases he demolished the results which NASA/GISS derived from the same data sets. An attempt was made to refute one of his papers but he successfully defended his work and rebutted the counter-argument. When you look at the masterpiece created by Anthony Watts at watts-up-with-that on the surface temerature stations in the USA it's all over but the final confession. Frankly Watt and the two Steves should share a prize. Denis. Dr. John Christy University Alabama-Huntsville has published two detailed studies of different sections of the surface temperature record which NASA/GISS uses in the US. In both cases he demolished the results which NASA/GISS derived from the same data sets. An attempt was made to refute one of his papers but he successfully defended his work and rebutted the counter-argument. When you look at the masterpiece created by Anthony Watts at watts-up-with-that on the surface temerature stations in the USA it’s all over but the final confession. Frankly Watt and the two Steves should share a prize.

]]> By: Denis Ables http://www.climategate.com/australiagate-now-nasa-caught-in-trick-over-aussie-climate-data/comment-page-1#comment-4180 Denis Ables Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:25:48 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?p=3821#comment-4180 Tom: What's strange about the "dad & son" site, is that (if their calculations were accurate, their urban/rural study showed no warming in rural temp, from 1900 all the way to very recent. (That being the case, one can only conclude that the increase over time in urban areas was therefore all UHI.) They also referred to the NASA GISS data as "raw". (Somebody with a lot more knowledge indicated that the data "couldn't be trusted", but I can't imagine that if these guys did their usual "homogenizing" - or "pasteurizing" that it would show no warming. It just doesn't compute. Tom:
What’s strange about the “dad & son” site, is that (if their calculations were accurate, their urban/rural study showed no warming in rural temp, from 1900 all the way to very recent. (That being the case, one can only conclude that the increase over time in urban areas was therefore all UHI.) They also referred to the NASA GISS data as “raw”. (Somebody with a lot more knowledge indicated that the data “couldn’t be trusted”, but I can’t imagine that if these guys did their usual “homogenizing” – or “pasteurizing” that it would show no warming. It just doesn’t compute.

]]> By: John O'Sullivan http://www.climategate.com/australiagate-now-nasa-caught-in-trick-over-aussie-climate-data/comment-page-1#comment-4179 John O'Sullivan Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:22:49 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?p=3821#comment-4179 I fear you are being disingenuous in your failure to concede the legal principle and its application to the facts as known in this case. Please read Prof Jones's admissions on this issue - his confession to the crime is absolute. I fail to see where you intend to take this argument as Jones gives us both the mens rea and actus reus. The ICO confirm the crime was committed but refuse to prosecute on a 'technicality' ( which is bogus as there is no time limit as per the Fraud Act [2005]). There is no legal precedent I can find where a party has escaped the loss of a civil or criminal case after they willfully destroyed evidence - in either the courts of England nor in the United States. But I’ll happily let you go find a precedent and bring one for us. But I warn you, your search will be fruitless. I fear you are being disingenuous in your failure to concede the legal principle and its application to the facts as known in this case. Please read Prof Jones’s admissions on this issue – his confession to the crime is absolute. I fail to see where you intend to take this argument as Jones gives us both the mens rea and actus reus. The ICO confirm the crime was committed but refuse to prosecute on a ‘technicality’ ( which is bogus as there is no time limit as per the Fraud Act [2005]). There is no legal precedent I can find where a party has escaped the loss of a civil or criminal case after they willfully destroyed evidence – in either the courts of England nor in the United States. But I’ll happily let you go find a precedent and bring one for us. But I warn you, your search will be fruitless.

]]> By: azflyboy http://www.climategate.com/australiagate-now-nasa-caught-in-trick-over-aussie-climate-data/comment-page-1#comment-4161 azflyboy Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:14:21 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?p=3821#comment-4161 Why all the fuss? There is a simple explanation. Everyone keeps talking about the raw data being homogenized. What they meant to say is the data was Pasteurized which requires increasing the temperature. Why all the fuss? There is a simple explanation. Everyone keeps talking about the raw data being homogenized. What they meant to say is the data was Pasteurized which requires increasing the temperature.

]]> By: Saturday 02.13.2010 — >>FLITSP! POOM!<< « Within This Shell http://www.climategate.com/australiagate-now-nasa-caught-in-trick-over-aussie-climate-data/comment-page-1#comment-4125 Saturday 02.13.2010 — >>FLITSP! POOM!<< « Within This Shell Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:01:27 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?p=3821#comment-4125 [...] Face $1.4 Trillion Commercial Property Crisis ] [ Climategate - The Official Coverup Continues ] [ NASA & Columbia Caught Tweaking Australia Climate Data ] [ Scientist - Ice Age Could Start In Five Years ] [ PDF: Shocking Comparison - Fluoride, Arsenic [...] [...] Face $1.4 Trillion Commercial Property Crisis ] [ Climategate - The Official Coverup Continues ] [ NASA & Columbia Caught Tweaking Australia Climate Data ] [ Scientist - Ice Age Could Start In Five Years ] [ PDF: Shocking Comparison - Fluoride, Arsenic [...]

]]> By: It took Moses almost three months to lead the Children of Israel to Mount Sinai. During that time Yahweh taught them several lessons. Actually, He taught the first lessons while they were in Egypt. The ten plagues He inflicted on Pharaoh and the Egyptians http://www.climategate.com/australiagate-now-nasa-caught-in-trick-over-aussie-climate-data/comment-page-1#comment-4098 It took Moses almost three months to lead the Children of Israel to Mount Sinai. During that time Yahweh taught them several lessons. Actually, He taught the first lessons while they were in Egypt. The ten plagues He inflicted on Pharaoh and the Egyptians Sun, 14 Feb 2010 05:58:38 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?p=3821#comment-4098 [...] Australiagate: now NASA caught in trick over Aussie climate data [...] [...] Australiagate: now NASA caught in trick over Aussie climate data [...]

]]> By: Daily scoreboard « Don Surber http://www.climategate.com/australiagate-now-nasa-caught-in-trick-over-aussie-climate-data/comment-page-1#comment-3900 Daily scoreboard « Don Surber Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:01:31 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?p=3821#comment-3900 [...] From John O’Sullivan — Australiagate: “Ken proves that the GISS homogenised older data to make the climate [...] [...] From John O’Sullivan — Australiagate: “Ken proves that the GISS homogenised older data to make the climate [...]

]]>