Feb
BBC Radio now admits it’s time to talk to skeptics
Below we wish to share with our readers a fascinating a UK BBC radio debate yesterday about Climategate that caught our interest:
Listen: BBC
On the BBC iplayer, it is a recording of Thursday’s ‘The Gabby Logan Show’, a UK lunch time national talk radio show, (at 11:42 through 34:00) with Mike Hulme, Professor of Climate Change in the School of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia (UEA), Richard North, journalist and skeptic and the BBC’s Roger Harrabin discuss UEA investigation and broader issues.
Of particular interest are Roger Harrabin’s contributions. You may recall that Mr. Harrabin has extended an offer to debate with skeptics.
Harrabin refers to his ongoing contacts with Anthony Watts at Watts Up With That and me, and he now concedes that the blogosphere has changed the climate debate entirely since Climategate. It is clear to me Mr. Harrabin has gone some way towards meeting my challenge that the mainstream media must be more inclusive of the well-informed Internet skeptic community. His comments are welcome but we shall see whether this will usher in greater objectivity in other more prominent areas of broadcasting from his paymasters at the much-maligned BBC.
Possibly related posts:
- BBC Says, ‘Let’s talk’ to climate skeptics: initiative to debate begins
- BBC’s Roger Harrabin questions Professor Phil Jones
- IPCC co-chair Chris Field loses his cool with Roger Pielkie, Jr
- Lord Monckton debates Rupert Posner from the Climate Group
- IPCC member admits not reading IPPC Report, yet wants to change your lifestyle due to what’s in it
There are no errors in the IPCC reports, just deliberate falsified inclusions to make the case for global warming.
Anyone notice Richard North barely got to finnish a sentence?
Are you sure about Roger:
I heard the inteview and I was appalled… He is trying to spin the debate, stolen, not leaked… Did they say that about the telegraph’s stolen mp’s expenses…
He said he couldn’t find any sceptical scientists!?!?!?!
What about Paul Dennis in the adjacent LAb to Phil Jones!!!
It appears the science is not even settled at East Anglia University…
I’m Paul Dennis, an isotope geochemist and Head of the Stable Isotope Laboratories at the School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia.
http://harmonicoscillator.wordpress.com/
“…The only approach we can take is that of the scientific method and use our knowledge of physics and chemistry to develop plausible hypotheses which we can test. If an idea cannot be developed into a testable hypotheses it remains just an idea. The theory of CO2 induced catastrophic global warming is just that: an idea that cannot be experimentally falsified. In the absence of any direct ability to test the idea we must apply common sense or Occam’s razor. For example the principle of uniformitarianism suggests that if CO2 is the dominant forcing component in the climate system then there should be abundant evidence of temperatures scaling with CO2 levels. As a first order test we can look at the Eemian intergalcial about 125,000 years ago. During this period CO2 levels were about 280ppm (100ppm below present day levels) and temperatures several degrees warmer than present. Here we see immediately that temperature is not a simple function of atmospheric CO2 levels and we have to look at other components in the climate system to explain the Eemian climate.”
The guardian thought he was the climategate whistleblower..
From Watts Up…
BBC close links to political and social activists:
BBC
CMEB(Cambridge Media and Environment Programme)
CMEB is funded by the BBC, DEFRA and the Tyndall Centre from the UEA, closely connected to the CRU…so a lack of independence for the BBC both from government and the CRU.
Roger Harrabin, BBC enviromental journalist and co-director of CMEB
Dr Joe Smith, Co-director of CMEB, social and political scientist, BBC environmental commentator and reporter and lead of the:
Interdependence day Project which aims to use environmental issues to end the nation state and introduce global government.
The IDP is sponsored by the Open University and the BBC.
The IDP is run in conjunction with the New Economics Foundation, a radical think tank that is a favourite source of news and comment for the BBC.
Does the CMEB have influence?
BBC: “After one seminar, the BBC concluded that as all major governments had accepted the risk of climate change, arguments about the science of climate change should play a smaller part in the media than previously, whilst still being aired from time to time.”
The BBC, via Harrabin and Joe Smith have changed their policy on climate change and decided to sideline the sceptics and any doubts at all about the science…which means government can then have a free hand to introduce measures such as taxes to ‘limit’ AGW because it has now been ‘proven’.
Harrabin is no longer an objective journalist but an advoctae for the politics of climate change.
He works on the lecture circuit earning £5k-£10k a time giving out his version of AGW to presumably influential punters who then go home possibly swayed by his arguments and adapt policy of companies, local authorites or government to suit.
This is from the introduction page on the BBC/OU website for the Interdependence Day Project:
Let Facts be submitted to a candid world”: Introducing The Interdependence Day project:
Both globalization and global environmental change invite us to extend greatly our notion of who counts in politics. For the drafters of the Declaration of Independence the drastic revision of political sovereignty they proposed seemed natural: the time had come for change wherein governments would be ‘deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed’. We have arrived at a time that demands change on a similar scale. The carefully marked out boundaries of political community organized around the human members of nation states have begun to break down….in doing so we are forced to revise our notion of who and what needs to be heard in political discourse. This idea has been expressed in terms of an emergent cosmopolitanism or global civil society, and in notions of ecological citizenship.
The Interdependence Day project is propelled by a hopeful sense that we can dare to rethink the way the world works, but that this will require sustained effort in both intellectual and cultural spheres. We want to help to provoke new thinking, new cultural work, and new spaces for interactions between environment and development policy communities, media producers, museum curators, scientists, theorists, philosophers, performers and artists. Although the grand associations with the American Declaration of Independence that our title implies is delivered with a thick vein of irony – born of modesty – none of us can afford to be too shy in asserting that another world is possible.”