Comments on: Beating the Climategate Cover Up: the next legal step

By: Mangled Thoughts » Criminal actions launched against the EPA and a larger number of other fraudsters

Mon, 01 Mar 2010 08:27:30 +0000

[...] Beating the Climategate Cover Up: the next legal step, John O’Sullivan traces out the application of the RICO Act and against some of the many who [...]

By: val majkus

val majkus — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:34:21 +0000

John did you know that Charles the Moderator from Watts Up with That site has been contacted by the Norfolk Constabulary
check it out at http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/25/ctm-is-contacted-by-the-norfolk-constabulary-and-responds/#more-16713

By: John O'Sullivan

John O'Sullivan — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:22:46 +0000

Val, I agree, as per your findings, that perhaps the ‘due diligence’ gambit works well for both mandamus petitions and judicial review and is perhaps the most practical step. Skeptics particularly need to lobby Aussie coal companies and urge them to read our commentary and pay heed to the Peabody Energy Co. petition that is a superbly compiled legal document. Also, they should look at Dr. John Costella’s peerless study of the leaked CRU emails.
I have found that the spoliation doctrine is best defined in the US legal context. In the UK, like you’re finding in Australia, the law has yet to enshrine this concept so definitively. But, perhaps the time has now come. I do hope you can eke out some more time on this to work with me. There are too few legal commentators on either side of the debate, which I find odd, in itself.

By: val majkus

val majkus — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:16:12 +0000

An execellent article John; I’ve had a quick look at the Australian legal site AUSTLII and done a quick search of the database to see if I could find something recent in regard to spoliation of evidence; tampering with evidence; destruction of evidence; and have found some references; but I can’t help thinking other than tampering with evidence (which could perhaps sheet home to the BOM wrongdoing in regard to temperatures) that Australia’s cause of action would be something like ‘disregarding of evidence’ by those whose business should be due diligence; and this brings me back to my inexperience ‘who can bring that suit’; ‘can we bring it against our Climate Change Minister’; my time is a bit short these days but I do intend to continue research and will post further; in the meantime hope to maybe get some tips from informed readers or yourself;

By: John O'Sullivan

John O'Sullivan — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:46:38 +0000

Dominic, sorry, but you are wrong. The British government confirmed the UK’s CRU broke the law in refusing to comply with FOIA requests. If you don’t want the less charitable to ridicule you, then I suggest in future you check your facts before posting.

By: twistedsis

twistedsis — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:28:51 +0000

There is a crime here, the crime is the intentional skewing of the data and doing so with our dollars. Generally, we call that FRAUD and fraud is a crime. We have thrown trillions of dollars at global warming based on lies. These lies were deliberate, thought out and planned. This is fraud and it can be pressed in a court house in the USA. I don’t know about other contries but this kind of a crime can be prosecuted in the US. I want all of these assholes in jail. They have perpetrated the largest fraud in human history. They willfully lied, demonized anyone that would not lie for them, and generally made asses of themselves, to bad we can’t prosecute for bad character. Somebody needs to go to jail. We need to re-enforce the idea that fraud is illeagle even when perpetrated by alledgedly educated people. I had to add allegedly
because it appears to me that climate scientists may well be the most ignorant people on this earth. If they are not stupid then this is a RICO statue case and should be prosecuted with glee.
I wan’t all of these lying , thieving “scientist” in jail sooner rather than later. They should not get a country club jail, they should be in a federal prison. This is the biggest con job the world has ever seen. It has cost the USA alone billions of dollars if not trillions. Somebody has to go to jail and that includes James Hansen. Theese people have been stealing from every person in this world and stealing from people not yet born who will have to pay for the stupidity and criminal activities of the so-called “scientist”

By: The Return of The Son of Thermageddon II, The Sequel « SOYLENT GREEN

The Return of The Son of Thermageddon II, The Sequel « SOYLENT GREEN — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:11:12 +0000

[...] the care of Murtha’s doctor? Call your senators, you know the drill. We can’t rely on the RICO suits John O’Sullivan says are coming–they’ll be highly entertaining, but they can’t come fast enough. I just hope they [...]

By: yaosxx

yaosxx — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:09:42 +0000

“This is certainly the lowest point for the deniers”

Dominic – No it’s not! You’re just looking through the telescope the wrong way! DOH!!

By: Mary

Mary — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:43:59 +0000

My Dear Son,

In this case, the so-called SCIENCE wasn´t REAL science-conclusions draw from non-manipulated facts -enough of the data was fabricated and fraudulant(when not destroyed or “LOST”) to make the results/conclusions questionable. And because of this, IT DOES MATTER what a court decides, not about the science, but about the behavior of the so-called scientists/climate researchers whom appear to have biased results in order to support the Global Warming agenda.

By: Graham

Graham — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:34:53 +0000

Dominic is an Al Gore wannabe.

His posts only show up how desperate the AGW camp are.

It’s nice to know that Elmer Fudd bats for Al Gore.