One thing you got right: I am a conservative and proud of it. I’ve come to realize that progressives can only pretend to give a damn about anyone or anything. Their agenda is totally power-driven politics, for themselves and their elitist pals.

Would I be correct in assuming you’re pretty far left of center? Do you think that has anything to do with your being so willing to enact such draconian, painful changes to societies around the world? The UK “mixture” in government is mostly Socialist. In truth, the U.S. isn’t far behind them. I will resist this leftward slide with all my might. You people, for I’m sure you’re one of them, you central planners, you social engineers, are the antithesis of free men and women, and you don’t even care. You don’t even consider it shameful.

Leaving ideology aside (as if we could) for a minute, I repost one of my original comments below, truncated. You never addressed it, other than obliquely, opaquely and briefly. Anyone of any political stripe should be able to agree with it: [T]he…scientists…were either unwilling or unable to do the job for which they were paid. They certainly weren’t paid to become prima donnas or…such fragile flowers that they couldn’t take the slightest criticism of their shoddy work.”

You think the “emails” were the game-changer for me. They weren’t. (By the way, that’s another tactic, one I well recognize. The leaked material contained other significant material, not just emails.)

I’d rather die than submit. My descendants don’t deserve to be consigned to Van Jonestown, the faceless gray socialism you and yours wish to foist upon us, all in the name of being so compassionate, in the name of saving (destroying, actually) us.

You use terms such as “vile fulmination,” “right-wing conservative types,” and, “the characterization conjured up by your comments regarding global warming.”

The leftward side is supposed to be oh-so-compassionate. In the U.S., it’s widely “known” that the liberal Democrats care about the little guy, unlike those nasty right-wing conservatives.

I didn’t say anything that a reasonable person could construe as “vile.” I don’t do vile. Does it render me instantly ignorant to resist the flim-flam artists you call scientists?

I’ll be more than happy to jump on the AGW bandwagon, when the arguments for it become straightforward and honest, you know, less like a breathless salesman saying the “sale” is for one-day only, now or never. I also realize that we might, by waiting, allow a dangerous runaway effect in the Earth’s warming (an inner tipping point, not the one Al Gore mentions).

That’s too bad. That would be a catastrophe, one justifiably laid at the feet of the men who performed science with an agenda in mind. There is ample evidence that the IPCC knew what the desired result was before ever a computer model of the climate was run.

The process has been shot through with fraud, aimed toward the gullible.

And what I said about aging hippies is absolutely true. Are you aware that the WWF had a non-reviewed paper published in an IPCC assessment? What the hell do they know? There’s a difference between an environmentalist and a scientist. If you can’t recognize that simple fact, you’ve made yoursef a victim of the CAGW hoax.

The headband-wearing dumb masses were clamoring, 40 years ago, for massive handouts to the third world, as reparations for the scars of colonialism. Now that these hippies are all grown up, getting old, CAGW is their refuge, their cause, their purported reason for the same massive handouts they wanted back in the day.

I’ll give CAGW a chance, when the CAGW hoaxers give everyone else a forthright, open description of what they’ve done. You want to blame the oil companies, do it. The oil companies will make money in any environment. They won’t have to pay the cap and trade taxes. Corporations can’t pay taxes; they can only collect them for the government and hand them over. And from whom do they collect the taxes? Why, conveniently enough, it’s the same source of all tax payments, me and every other little guy scratching for his daily bread.

The Communists re-formed as the Green Parties. Greenpeace was taken over by the b*st*rds, to the point where the original idiots were forced out of their own organizations by idiots even more radicalized.

I’ll believe in CAGW when it’s openly and honestly proved. Good example: Michael Mann still won’t admit that he KNEW the original hockey stick graph was fraudulent. I don’t know what else to say to you.

Question for you, Steve Mennie: Would you be happy to learn that CAGW was a hoax? To learn why you would not be happy, please read up on apocalypse-based religions. One great story is of the Millerites in 1844. Google this string — millerites great disappointment. After Jesus failed to come on the appointed day, as thousand anxiously waited, a Boston newspaper asked waggishly, on the front page, “What? Not gone up yet? We thought you’d gone up!”

That’s you, Steve Mennie. I believe it firmly. And now, the phony dumb masses who promulgated this hoax must first earn my trust and then, and only then, convince me that CAGW is something I should worry over.

Then..what do you base your categorical dismissal of AGW on? And what evidence would or could convince you otherwise?

I must explain the ‘faggoty’ comment..I have nothing against those of the homosexual persuasion..some of my best friends etc..I used the term to further embellish the view that most right-wing conservative types have of liberals..you know…that they are soft, limp-wristed anti-war and just generally of questionable character..nothing else meant or implied.

As you seem to be a reasonable sort..totally unlike the characterization conjured up by your comments regarding global warming..what do you base your categorical dismissal of AGW on? And what evidence would or could convince you otherwise?

Within my circle, we don’t say faggoty, or any derivation of that cruel word. We’ve lived through the death of too many good friends who succumbed to AIDS. We also had to live through idiots like Jerry Falwell spouting hatred on television, repeatedly driving home the fact that AIDS is God’s punishment for a human sin (that is, having the temerity to differ from the good Reverend in his or her sexuality).

So, no, if all the wrong-headed scientists were gay, they’d still be liars, but you wouldn’t hear me using cruel epithets against them.

This whole thing with the enviornment is nothing but idolotry.

Actually it’s paganism. No graven image involved. But you’ve right about the rest.

It aint’ nut’n but a thang. Don’t worry ‘bouddit.

You know I don’t hate you. Hell, I never hated the little ol’ widder lady next door who sent $150.00 a month to Oral Roberts, before he mercifully died.

She was a victim. So are you.

I must say that is quite an enthusiastic rejoinder..And forgive me if I mis-represented you..As I said..your comments conjured up the images I described and were in no way meant to accurately describe your self as I have no idea if you would be carrying either a squirrel gun or a bible. This digital world eh? Custom built for mis-understanding. I guess the fact that you are placing so much emphasis on what is essentially a non-issue..(the purloined emails) is what helps create this image of an anti-scientist, socialist horde-overrunning the planet stereotype.

Are you psychic, Steve Mennie? Are you having me followed? Because I don’t know how you could’ve so accurately portrayed me otherwise.

Looks like I’m gonna have to arm the kids, too, if you’re gonna be out there poking around in the dark beyond the campfire.

I’m telling Gavin what you said about him, by the way. He’s not pointy-headed. I don’t know why you’d say such a THANG!!