Comments on: Glaciergate: Another scientist rats on the IPCC’s fraudulent ways

By: George Grisancich

George Grisancich — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:38:05 +0000

There is a very simple reason why none of the reviewers picked up on the 2035 claim. Both the First order draft, and the second order draft make the 2035 claim, but do not include a citation. Only the final released version attributes the claim to the WWF.

What is equally alarming is that person responsible for the 2035 claim, Hasnain, is cited in the same section WGII, 10.6.2, and only a handful of lines after the 2035 claim. To suggest he missed the claim defies logic. What? He only looked at the sentence attributed to him? I doubt it.

By: smgupta

smgupta — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 06:19:47 +0000

Ironically it fetched Hasnain one of the highest civilian award in India: Padma shri in 2009 for Himalayan glaciology!
Incidently, Pachauri recieved Padma Vibhusan the same year.
Is there any link between two – two awards?

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By: Tom Roe

Tom Roe — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 19:09:42 +0000

Thank you. There are many obviously bright and independent people on this site. I am happy to be on their side. BTW- I recently saw video of Bernie Madoff speaking at a gathering of investors and regulators were he said (paraphrase) ” In today’s regulatory climate it would be virtually impossible to maintain a financial fraud over a long period of time” he blathered on in this same sobber manner for sometime obviously seeking to reassure those placing their hard-earned money in the hands of snakes like himself. I know that we have people out there who could take the Madoff video and split-screen it with Dr. Parchauri to good effect. Personally I can’t think of a better way to illustrate to a wary public that a massive scam is taking place than to link it to Bernie.

By: humanpersonjr

humanpersonjr — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:33:43 +0000

Tom Roe — Your comment is an excellent one.

I would urge my fellow readers to RE-READ the section of your comment beginning: “We must have investigative hearings…”

Your last sentence is also very well targeted. Thanks for the insightful comment, well presented.

By: Tom Roe

Tom Roe — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:05:10 +0000

Fraud is a crime. These people have not comitted a sin, error in judgement, or other less malign human act. They have committed fraud and intended to do so from the beginning. The IPCC is akin to an election board in North Korea. It is a body carefully designed and staffed to achieve a pre-determined result much like the computer programming which continues to produce warming where there is little or none. Rail Roadist Pachauri has been BS-ing so many for so long that he is likely incapable of speaking anything resembling the truth. When he states “our process is robust” he is telling a truth if the truth is that the process produces the pre-determined results everytime. We must have investigative hearings in the Congress of the US soon and they must be transparent. One of our greatest challenges and frankly the one which often makes it appear that we are a quixotic bunch, is the omnipresence of those on the other side. If there are hearings they will of course chair them and attempt to guide them. This is where we need the broader press to rise to the challenge of it’s best self as a counter to established power. While we can with great effort break the inertia that sets the hammer in motion, we will need others to provide the main force on the downswing.

By: Vince

Vince — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:04:51 +0000

I’m sorry; if I was to pull a stunt like this, in todays political climate, I would be charged with terrorism. What else can it be, telling over a billion peoples that they will die of thirst in 40years time?
This isn’t bad science; this is criminal.

By: humanpersonjr

humanpersonjr — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:02:20 +0000

Any warmists/alarmists out there care to weigh in?

I’d like to hear, just once more, that “the science is settled.” Or how about another perennial favorite, “That train has left the station.”? Or how about this one, “The story, while true, changes nothing about the overall conclusion that CAGW is real and happening now.”

What the useful idiots (not Hansen, Gore, Pachauri, et al — they’re totally in the know and up to speed) fail to recognize: A tenth of a degree C here and there, a dramatic lie about glaciers hither and yon, and, before you even know it, before you can say Jack Robinson, you’ve got yourself a damned fine narrative. Well, fine until the wheels start to come off.

These are some of the rottenest b*st*rds to ever come down the pike — aging hippies in suits, trying to “change the world.” They need to, DESERVE to finish out their miserable lives in jail.

By: jazznick

jazznick — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:23:47 +0000

ADE- agree entirely.
“All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level,
that even the most stupid of those toward whom it is directed will
understand it… Through clever and constant application of propaganda,
people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way
around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.”
Adolf Hitler.

It started with Hansen and Gore, then Mann and Pachauri supported by the UN/IMF/World Bank who want a World Government with themselves as part of the unelected controlling elite.
Small wonder our 3 Labour parties in the UK want to be part of this
money machine – but the tide is turning – hold your nerve everyone
it’s going to get interesting !

By: ADE

ADE — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:26:44 +0000

The reports of Glacioligist Syed Hasnain and Dr. Murari Lal ,having Knowledge, that the report by IPCC stating the demise of Himalalayan glaciers by 2035 was another tale of DOOM to put pressure on politicians and world leaders is more pernicious a LIE than any so far exposed .
What could have been more destructive to the Indian sub continent than the “certainty of drying rivers BY 2035″. An IPCC statement that would affect hundreds of millions of people in only 25 YEARS TIME.
This clearly was NO MISTAKE ,but a callous lie to REALLY FRIGHTEN MILLIONS.
This was a deiberate ploy ,no wonder it was not “peer aproved” ,imagine the panic in India.
Never in the field of human history has such a lie been told to so many by so few .