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	<title>Comments on: Lord Monckton debates Rupert Posner from the Climate Group</title>
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		<title>By: PRODOS</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/lord-monckton-debates-rupert-posner-from-the-climate-group/comment-page-2#comment-4478</link>
		<dc:creator>PRODOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my transcription of, what I believe is the relevant portion of the interview:

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&lt;b&gt;Lord Monckton&lt;/b&gt;: ... l I found out on the day of publication of the 2007 report that they’d multiplied by ten the observed contribution to sea-level rise of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheet. By ten! And I got in touch with them and said “You will correct this!” And two days later, furtively, on their website, no publicity, they simply relabeled and re-added-up and corrected the table they’d got wrong … a table which hadn’t even been put into the original scientists’ draft. Someone (had) stuck it in afterwards. 

&lt;b&gt;Alan Jones&lt;/b&gt;: But … this is what won a Nobel Prize!

&lt;b&gt;Lord Monckton&lt;/b&gt;: Yes, exactly. And I in fact am also a Nobel Prize winner because I made that correction. I’m part of the process that got the Nobel Prize. Do I deserve it? No. Do they deserve it? No. The thing is a joke.
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Other references to the claimed Nobel Peace Prize by Lord Monckton:

http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/22430/Dishonest_Political_Tampering_with_the_Science_on_Global_Warming.html
&lt;blockquote&gt;As a contributor to the IPCC’s 2007 report, I share the Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore ...

... My contribution to the 2007 report illustrates the scientific problem. The report’s first table of figures - inserted by the IPCC’s bureaucrats after the scientists had finalized the draft, and without their consent - listed four contributions to sea-level rise. The bureaucrats had multiplied the effect of melting ice from the Greenland and West Antarctic Ice Sheets by 10.

The result of this dishonest political tampering with the science was that the sum of the four items in the offending table was more than twice the IPCC’s published total. Until I wrote to point out the error, no one had noticed. The IPCC, on receiving my letter, quietly corrected, moved and relabeled the erroneous table, posting the new version on the internet and earning me my Nobel prize.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/personnel.html
&lt;blockquote&gt;
His contribution to the IPCC&#039;s Fourth Assessment Report in 2007 - the correction of a table inserted by IPCC bureaucrats that had overstated tenfold the observed contribution of the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets to sea-level rise - earned him the status of Nobel Peace Laureate. 

His Nobel prize pin, made of gold recovered from a physics experiment, was presented to him by the Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Rochester, New York, USA.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lord Monckton&#039;s claim to the Nobel Peace Prize seems to be a send-up of both the Prize and the IPCC. Indeed, he has stated in more than one interview, when questioned directly about the matter that the claim is a joke.

Here is an excerpt from the Nobel Foundation regarding the IPCC receiving the Peace Prize:
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2007/press.html
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Thousands of scientists and officials from over one hundred countries have collaborated to achieve greater certainty as to the scale of the warming.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I hope the above has been of some use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my transcription of, what I believe is the relevant portion of the interview:</p>
<blockquote><p>
<b>Lord Monckton</b>: &#8230; l I found out on the day of publication of the 2007 report that they’d multiplied by ten the observed contribution to sea-level rise of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheet. By ten! And I got in touch with them and said “You will correct this!” And two days later, furtively, on their website, no publicity, they simply relabeled and re-added-up and corrected the table they’d got wrong … a table which hadn’t even been put into the original scientists’ draft. Someone (had) stuck it in afterwards. </p>
<p><b>Alan Jones</b>: But … this is what won a Nobel Prize!</p>
<p><b>Lord Monckton</b>: Yes, exactly. And I in fact am also a Nobel Prize winner because I made that correction. I’m part of the process that got the Nobel Prize. Do I deserve it? No. Do they deserve it? No. The thing is a joke.
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<p>Other references to the claimed Nobel Peace Prize by Lord Monckton:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/22430/Dishonest_Political_Tampering_with_the_Science_on_Global_Warming.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/22430/Dishonest_Political_Tampering_with_the_Science_on_Global_Warming.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>As a contributor to the IPCC’s 2007 report, I share the Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; My contribution to the 2007 report illustrates the scientific problem. The report’s first table of figures &#8211; inserted by the IPCC’s bureaucrats after the scientists had finalized the draft, and without their consent &#8211; listed four contributions to sea-level rise. The bureaucrats had multiplied the effect of melting ice from the Greenland and West Antarctic Ice Sheets by 10.</p>
<p>The result of this dishonest political tampering with the science was that the sum of the four items in the offending table was more than twice the IPCC’s published total. Until I wrote to point out the error, no one had noticed. The IPCC, on receiving my letter, quietly corrected, moved and relabeled the erroneous table, posting the new version on the internet and earning me my Nobel prize.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/personnel.html" rel="nofollow">http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/personnel.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
His contribution to the IPCC&#8217;s Fourth Assessment Report in 2007 &#8211; the correction of a table inserted by IPCC bureaucrats that had overstated tenfold the observed contribution of the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets to sea-level rise &#8211; earned him the status of Nobel Peace Laureate. </p>
<p>His Nobel prize pin, made of gold recovered from a physics experiment, was presented to him by the Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Rochester, New York, USA.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Lord Monckton&#8217;s claim to the Nobel Peace Prize seems to be a send-up of both the Prize and the IPCC. Indeed, he has stated in more than one interview, when questioned directly about the matter that the claim is a joke.</p>
<p>Here is an excerpt from the Nobel Foundation regarding the IPCC receiving the Peace Prize:<br />
<a href="http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2007/press.html" rel="nofollow">http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2007/press.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
Thousands of scientists and officials from over one hundred countries have collaborated to achieve greater certainty as to the scale of the warming.</p></blockquote>
<p>I hope the above has been of some use.</p>
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		<title>By: PRODOS</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/lord-monckton-debates-rupert-posner-from-the-climate-group/comment-page-2#comment-4436</link>
		<dc:creator>PRODOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;ve just located the source of this claim.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-diary/nobleman-is-no-nobel-man-20100125-muky.html
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Lord Monckton, a prominent climate sceptic, is on a sponsored speaking tour to undermine support for carbon emissions cuts. Quizzed about his alleged Nobel status by the Herald yesterday, the British peer said &#039;&#039;it was a joke, a joke&#039;&#039; and never meant to be taken seriously.

The jocular admission was made several hours after he had said with a straight face on the Alan Jones radio program that he had been awarded the Nobel - a claim Jones did not question.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think the audio file of this interview is located at:
http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=6205&amp;Itemid=134

I&#039;m going to listen to it and report back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ve just located the source of this claim.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-diary/nobleman-is-no-nobel-man-20100125-muky.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-diary/nobleman-is-no-nobel-man-20100125-muky.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
Lord Monckton, a prominent climate sceptic, is on a sponsored speaking tour to undermine support for carbon emissions cuts. Quizzed about his alleged Nobel status by the Herald yesterday, the British peer said &#8221;it was a joke, a joke&#8221; and never meant to be taken seriously.</p>
<p>The jocular admission was made several hours after he had said with a straight face on the Alan Jones radio program that he had been awarded the Nobel &#8211; a claim Jones did not question.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think the audio file of this interview is located at:<br />
<a href="http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=6205&#038;Itemid=134" rel="nofollow">http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=6205&#038;Itemid=134</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to listen to it and report back.</p>
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		<title>By: PRODOS</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/lord-monckton-debates-rupert-posner-from-the-climate-group/comment-page-2#comment-4431</link>
		<dc:creator>PRODOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david brown writes &quot;do you actually believe monckton received the nobel peace prize as he claims.?&quot;

Could david brown provide the source of this claim, please? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>david brown writes &#8220;do you actually believe monckton received the nobel peace prize as he claims.?&#8221;</p>
<p>Could david brown provide the source of this claim, please? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/lord-monckton-debates-rupert-posner-from-the-climate-group/comment-page-2#comment-4425</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and since 2002 there has been a decline of the same mere measly 0.12K per decade...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and since 2002 there has been a decline of the same mere measly 0.12K per decade&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/lord-monckton-debates-rupert-posner-from-the-climate-group/comment-page-2#comment-4424</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite 1998 being a &quot;very hot&quot; year, Jones is now on record as admitting there has been no statistically significant warming since 1995 (a mere measly 0.12K per decade)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite 1998 being a &#8220;very hot&#8221; year, Jones is now on record as admitting there has been no statistically significant warming since 1995 (a mere measly 0.12K per decade)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JOHN</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/lord-monckton-debates-rupert-posner-from-the-climate-group/comment-page-2#comment-4421</link>
		<dc:creator>JOHN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David...you know as well as I do that the NASA date and the MET data is busted.  Phil Jones even admits no warming since 1995.  Why do you ask about it? You think everyone is stupid? 

Monckton admitted it was a joke.  Regardless compared to the lies of Al Gore, Phil Jones, Michael Mann, et all, it pales in comparison.  

Now go drum up some more techical BS to try and make your point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David&#8230;you know as well as I do that the NASA date and the MET data is busted.  Phil Jones even admits no warming since 1995.  Why do you ask about it? You think everyone is stupid? </p>
<p>Monckton admitted it was a joke.  Regardless compared to the lies of Al Gore, Phil Jones, Michael Mann, et all, it pales in comparison.  </p>
<p>Now go drum up some more techical BS to try and make your point.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/lord-monckton-debates-rupert-posner-from-the-climate-group/comment-page-2#comment-4419</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you want to check Monckton&#039;s emails, he always says that he will be happy to provide details he refers to in his debates, unlike Jones, Mann, &amp;c...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you want to check Monckton&#8217;s emails, he always says that he will be happy to provide details he refers to in his debates, unlike Jones, Mann, &amp;c&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/lord-monckton-debates-rupert-posner-from-the-climate-group/comment-page-2#comment-4416</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you have evidence to the contrary or some insider knowledge, the &quot;consensus&quot; is that the emails were leaked and not stolen.

Energy industry you say? I thought it was the Russians or some other so-secret government agency that no government knows it exists?..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you have evidence to the contrary or some insider knowledge, the &#8220;consensus&#8221; is that the emails were leaked and not stolen.</p>
<p>Energy industry you say? I thought it was the Russians or some other so-secret government agency that no government knows it exists?..</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/lord-monckton-debates-rupert-posner-from-the-climate-group/comment-page-2#comment-4414</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I didn&#039;t think there was a point in discussing an email where (I think it was) Jones (who) was celebrating the death of a sceptic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I didn&#8217;t think there was a point in discussing an email where (I think it was) Jones (who) was celebrating the death of a sceptic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
		<link>http://www.climategate.com/lord-monckton-debates-rupert-posner-from-the-climate-group/comment-page-2#comment-4413</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what you are saying is that Jones had to use a trick of the trade (yet to be identified) to hide the decline in temperatures from the tree ring data?.. It wouldn&#039;t be the decline since MWP, would it? See, even in context it ain&#039;t a puppy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what you are saying is that Jones had to use a trick of the trade (yet to be identified) to hide the decline in temperatures from the tree ring data?.. It wouldn&#8217;t be the decline since MWP, would it? See, even in context it ain&#8217;t a puppy!</p>
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