Comments on: Questions & Answers http://www.climategate.com Anthropogenic Global Warming, history's biggest scam Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:21:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Jason Van Orsdol http://www.climategate.com/questions/comment-page-2#comment-6891 Jason Van Orsdol Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:25:47 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?page_id=1981#comment-6891 BLAIR: You can drop your pants that are on fire. The point you miss is that science will never cease in uncovering repeatable hypothesis. I’m more of a realist, such as, why don’t you go on without your electricity and natural gas if you care so much about proving 60 years data (corrupted at times both ways) of 4.6 billion Earth years. As well, I vote true GW advocates immediately discontinue their use of electricity unless a viable alternative can be found. Good luck falling on eating your words when you discover the sun does not always shine and the wind comes and goes. Please understand that simply demanding an end to fossil fuels does not materialize new technology. While you are at it, look at hundreds of repeatable studies discussing the socio-economic impacts of higher energy costs. First, turn off your electricity before you respond. You do realize you are burning coal and typing on a hydrocarbon base element keyboard. We must steward the Earth with care. Propagandizing children about false Polar Bear facts and crushing any quantitative data that goes against your political stance is what makes me uncomfortable the most. In the 1930's an Austrian guy started propoganda focused on Germanic youth, leading to mass slaughter. Oh, a hydro-car-bon, say it with a friend, sound it out, is Carbon and Hydrogen elemental structures from Nature, categorized as fossil fuels. Remember when you exhale you are spewing Hazardous Material, CO2, maybe you should shut your mouth since you can’t do anything without electrical or hydrocarbon power. Stop exhaling for the children’s’ sake! Those of us you are calling idiots would like to hear your response, now. Van Orsdol BLAIR:
You can drop your pants that are on fire. The point you miss is that science will never cease in uncovering repeatable hypothesis. I’m more of a realist, such as, why don’t you go on without your electricity and natural gas if you care so much about proving 60 years data (corrupted at times both ways) of 4.6 billion Earth years. As well, I vote true GW advocates immediately discontinue their use of electricity unless a viable alternative can be found. Good luck falling on eating your words when you discover the sun does not always shine and the wind comes and goes. Please understand that simply demanding an end to fossil fuels does not materialize new technology.

While you are at it, look at hundreds of repeatable studies discussing the socio-economic impacts of higher energy costs. First, turn off your electricity before you respond. You do realize you are burning coal and typing on a hydrocarbon base element keyboard. We must steward the Earth with care. Propagandizing children about false Polar Bear facts and crushing any quantitative data that goes against your political stance is what makes me uncomfortable the most. In the 1930′s an Austrian guy started propoganda focused on Germanic youth, leading to mass slaughter.

Oh, a hydro-car-bon, say it with a friend, sound it out, is Carbon and Hydrogen elemental structures from Nature, categorized as fossil fuels. Remember when you exhale you are spewing Hazardous Material, CO2, maybe you should shut your mouth since you can’t do anything without electrical or hydrocarbon power.

Stop exhaling for the children’s’ sake! Those of us you are calling idiots would like to hear your response, now. Van Orsdol

]]> By: Ad Hominem http://www.climategate.com/questions/comment-page-1#comment-6852 Ad Hominem Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:49:47 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?page_id=1981#comment-6852 Everything here is just a bitch fest with you people. Nobody here is even trying to prove that man-made GW is false; you all just point fingers at each other screaming, "Liar, liar, pants on fire!" like a bunch of six year old little girls. Just because a journalist can take some emails out of context doesn't mean the words taken are true. Get your heads out of your asses. ad hominem ad hominem ad hominemad hominem ad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominemad hominem Everything here is just a bitch fest with you people. Nobody here is even trying to prove that man-made GW is false; you all just point fingers at each other screaming, “Liar, liar, pants on fire!” like a bunch of six year old little girls. Just because a journalist can take some emails out of context doesn’t mean the words taken are true. Get your heads out of your asses.

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]]> By: Dominic http://www.climategate.com/questions/comment-page-1#comment-5848 Dominic Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:31:05 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?page_id=1981#comment-5848 Who owns and operates this website? Who owns and operates this website?

]]> By: David http://www.climategate.com/questions/comment-page-1#comment-5479 David Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:26:58 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?page_id=1981#comment-5479 I was taught as scientific principles 1>> To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. 2>> Trees breath in carbon dioxide and exhale oxygen Therefore the more carbon dioxide there is for healthy tree growth the more oxygen they produce for people - right? I was taught as scientific principles
1>> To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
2>> Trees breath in carbon dioxide and exhale oxygen

Therefore the more carbon dioxide there is for healthy tree growth the more oxygen they produce for people – right?

]]> By: Jason Van Orsdol http://www.climategate.com/questions/comment-page-1#comment-5443 Jason Van Orsdol Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:40:04 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?page_id=1981#comment-5443 Mr. Gore has never had a cherry picked audience. Mr. Gore has never had a cherry picked audience.

]]> By: BrianOz http://www.climategate.com/questions/comment-page-1#comment-4638 BrianOz Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:00:52 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?page_id=1981#comment-4638 Our opposition leader (in Australia) brought up a good point today indicating that favourable press coverage for the gov't during this election year would lead to reduced licence fees for the TV broadcasters. I wonder if that favourable coverage could include holding AGW skeptical views out of the MSM? I also wonder if Mr Obama and Mr Brown have promised something similar? Just a thought.....! Our opposition leader (in Australia) brought up a good point today indicating that favourable press coverage for the gov’t during this election year would lead to reduced licence fees for the TV broadcasters. I wonder if that favourable coverage could include holding AGW skeptical views out of the MSM? I also wonder if Mr Obama and Mr Brown have promised something similar? Just a thought…..!

]]> By: gb http://www.climategate.com/questions/comment-page-1#comment-3513 gb Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:05:49 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?page_id=1981#comment-3513 Groper, you are right about Glaciers retreating, and thank goodness! Much of North America was once covered with glacier ice, and it wasn't that long ago in earth time. Man is born and dies in a single tick of Earth's clock. I see you didn't read about the mid evil period being warmer, those Chippies did a good job of hiding that from you I guess? Just recently the earth was in danger of being destroyed by the presence of an OZONE hole. Researchers looking to get into the public purse AGAIN now say we’re in bigger trouble now that the hole is closing. Of course they take credit for closing it too :-) Man is likely the most gullible creature on earth, history supports the claim. Great Britain owes it's very existence to a few great men who refused to go along with the majority of the sheep in the field. A majority has no bearing on good science. Groper, you are right about Glaciers retreating, and thank goodness! Much of North America was once covered with glacier ice, and it wasn’t that long ago in earth time. Man is born and dies in a single tick of Earth’s clock. I see you didn’t read about the mid evil period being warmer, those Chippies did a good job of hiding that from you I guess?

Just recently the earth was in danger of being destroyed by the presence of an OZONE hole. Researchers looking to get into the public purse AGAIN now say we’re in bigger trouble now that the hole is closing. Of course they take credit for closing it too :-)

Man is likely the most gullible creature on earth, history supports the claim. Great Britain owes it’s very existence to a few great men who refused to go along with the majority of the sheep in the field. A majority has no bearing on good science.

]]> By: Blair http://www.climategate.com/questions/comment-page-1#comment-3499 Blair Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:50:10 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?page_id=1981#comment-3499 Groper, the issue isn't whether the climate is changing. We don't deny that. We're denying that man, and CO2 in particular are the cause. It's true that some of the glaciers are retreating. Some of them have been retreating since the 1800's. We're not pointing at a couple of words here, we're pointing at the fact that we have been bombarded with unreliable science since the start of the debate. We're questioning the integrity of many of the scientists making these claims, who seem to have conflicts of interest that makes AGW something that will line their pockets. We're questioning the need to significantly damage half of the worlds economies to further this agenda, while simultaneously diverting resources away from useful, productive endeavours, like growing food for the 10's of MILLIONS of ppl that have already died of starvation. And we're questioning why ppl like yourself seem to have your hand over your eyes and ears, not listening to anyone who has the temerity to disagree with the new green religion. Groper, the issue isn’t whether the climate is changing. We don’t deny that. We’re denying that man, and CO2 in particular are the cause. It’s true that some of the glaciers are retreating. Some of them have been retreating since the 1800′s. We’re not pointing at a couple of words here, we’re pointing at the fact that we have been bombarded with unreliable science since the start of the debate. We’re questioning the integrity of many of the scientists making these claims, who seem to have conflicts of interest that makes AGW something that will line their pockets. We’re questioning the need to significantly damage half of the worlds economies to further this agenda, while simultaneously diverting resources away from useful, productive endeavours, like growing food for the 10′s of MILLIONS of ppl that have already died of starvation. And we’re questioning why ppl like yourself seem to have your hand over your eyes and ears, not listening to anyone who has the temerity to disagree with the new green religion.

]]> By: Groper http://www.climategate.com/questions/comment-page-1#comment-3492 Groper Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:08:53 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?page_id=1981#comment-3492 2009 was the second warmest ever and this decade is the hottest ever. It's clear the majority world's glaciers are retreating. Yet you chaps make a conspiracy out of 3 words out of 13 years of emails, one typo in a 3000 page. Does anybody look at the big picture here? Why don't you check out the denialists sites like the neo-con Heartland Institute and their right wing agenda to bash climate scientists over a few 'out of context' emails. 2009 was the second warmest ever and this decade is the hottest ever. It’s clear the majority world’s glaciers are retreating. Yet you chaps make a conspiracy out of 3 words out of 13 years of emails, one typo in a 3000 page. Does anybody look at the big picture here?

Why don’t you check out the denialists sites like the neo-con Heartland Institute and their right wing agenda to bash climate scientists over a few ‘out of context’ emails.

]]> By: gb http://www.climategate.com/questions/comment-page-1#comment-2964 gb Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:22:31 +0000 http://www.climategate.com/?page_id=1981#comment-2964 Re:John Brooke, Just about *forecasting*? I think not, first we need look honestly at the warming conditions prior. What about those varieties of grapes developed in regions now too cool for them to be viable in the same areas still? What about areas where grains were once grown and still too cool there to grow the same crops? Maybe you help me understand why areas where there were once great civilizations and then Climate Change made them too arid ‘long ago’ to support a Civilization that size? I think we might need to be just a little warmer to get back to the times of greatest prosperity in areas further from the equator. It’s the Alarmist’s job to convince me I’m wrong, it’s my money they want to fund their circus. Of course, they think they should simply demand my cooperation. There are scores of Websites doing a good business of selling over unity devices. I have looked on for years with curiosity. Example, 'Hydrogen Spiking' I know several who applied for grant money to study it. We start with a power source less than 30% thermally efficient, we then give up 27% of the energy in the conversion process to electrical energy. Then we use that to run our 'magic device' that makes hydrogen so we can use that miniscule amount of hydrogen to help power the prime mover. Staggering losses all along, but the ‘Free Lunch’ crowd line up to buy this crap! Thanks to the Greenies, there is a big Scam going on here in my area, Crooks are selling heavily subsidized solar panel installs with the promise you will earn twice as much money as you spend. I am old enough to have watched the last big energy scam in this area where Companies sold a solar water heater with a $6000 federal tax credit. The unit was incapable of returning a profit ever (considering the design and our region.) There were Skeptics then who did the math, but neither the FEDs nor the Believers listened, Believers ended up with six years of payments for nothing useful. Skeptics refused to invest. We need prove the numbers are accurate before we attempt to forecast a thing. For you BELIEVERS, don’t hesitate to buy those solar systems that allow you to make FREE electricity and feed some back into the grid and make money:-) Do it now, do your part! Jon, I’ll appreciate your efforts to correct spelling and grammer, BTW; I bet you still live with your Mum.. Re:John Brooke,
Just about *forecasting*? I think not, first we need look honestly
at the warming conditions prior. What about those varieties of grapes developed in regions now too cool for them to be viable in the same areas still? What about areas where grains were once grown and still too cool there to grow the same crops? Maybe you help me understand why areas where there were once great civilizations and then Climate Change made them too arid ‘long ago’ to support a Civilization that size? I think we might need to be just a little warmer to get back to the times of greatest prosperity in areas further from the equator. It’s the Alarmist’s job to convince me I’m wrong, it’s my money they want to fund their circus. Of course, they think they should simply demand my cooperation.

There are scores of Websites doing a good business of selling over unity devices. I have looked on for years with curiosity. Example, ‘Hydrogen Spiking’ I know several who applied for grant money to study it. We start with a power source less than 30% thermally efficient, we then give up 27% of the energy in the conversion process to electrical energy. Then we use that to run our ‘magic device’ that makes hydrogen so we can use that miniscule amount of hydrogen to help power the prime mover. Staggering losses all along, but the ‘Free Lunch’ crowd line up to buy this crap!

Thanks to the Greenies, there is a big Scam going on here in my area, Crooks are selling heavily subsidized solar panel installs with the promise you will earn twice as much money as you spend. I am old enough to have watched the last big energy scam in this area where Companies sold a solar water heater with a $6000 federal tax credit. The unit was incapable of returning a profit ever (considering the design and our region.) There were Skeptics then who did the math, but neither the FEDs nor the Believers listened, Believers ended up with six years of payments for nothing useful. Skeptics refused to invest.

We need prove the numbers are accurate before we attempt to forecast a thing. For you BELIEVERS, don’t hesitate to buy those solar systems that allow you to make FREE electricity and feed some back into the grid and make money:-) Do it now, do your part!

Jon, I’ll appreciate your efforts to correct spelling and grammer, BTW; I bet you still live with your Mum..

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